Well, looks like all the open source databases are progreesing… let me give you the one line summary of reach of them. First was ingres (by CA), which is really advanced code with a lot of features that no one but CA (and quite likely just the ingres part of CA) wants to hack on, which is giving them so interesting growning pains to getting into the open source community. My$QL went next, they are adding a bunch of features that make a whole lot of stuff really easy as long as you can get by on an 80% implementation. Next was Firefoxhh^hbird which apparently has no developer base cause they have been in alpha for like 7 months but does have a forked development tree so thats a bonus. Last was PostgreSQL which is moving through development ok, has a bunch of new features, and has a bunch of companies coming on board. No bias there! [[image /xzilla/templates/default/img/emoticons/smile.png alt=”:-)” style=”display: inline; vertical-align: bottom;” class=”emoticon” /]] break time I am trying to fix a slony install before david wheelers or mapping. l8r.